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MWUTT 22: Do we have a pronoun hospitality problem?

Pronoun use raises questions about truthfulness, love, and loyalty to God's account of creation.

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Getting Started
Pastor Michael Zarling, Josh Nelson, Pastor Andy Mueller
  1. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Welcome to this episode of Men Who Understood the Times. I'm Michael with Andy and Josh, and we're recording really early on a, uh, Saturday morning. Although, it's not that early for me, 'cause I've been up for two hours, and it's 7:00 here. Uh, Josh, what are you drinking early on this morning?

  2. Josh Nelson

    Black coffee.

  3. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Black coffee.

  4. Josh Nelson

    It's something that I always drink in the morning. Yeah.

  5. Pastor Michael Zarling

    There you go. Andy, what do you have? Do you have coffee?

  6. Pastor Andy Mueller

    I have almost black coffee. I use, like, a teardrop of cream in my coffee.

  7. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah. I've got some milk.

  8. Pastor Andy Mueller

    My wife makes fun of me. She says, "You might as well just drink it black," but that's the way I like it.

  9. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah. I, I do have some milk in my coffee too. But I was on Babylon Bee earlier this week and they asked a question about coffee and what you put in it, and it said, "Are you a man?" And basically, uh, it was only black coffee that you got-

  10. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Mm-hmm

  11. Pastor Michael Zarling

    ... yeah, you were a man. Every- anything else you put in there, even just a little bit of milk, you're not a man.

  12. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Now, hold on.

  13. Pastor Michael Zarling

    But-

  14. Pastor Andy Mueller

    To that point, there's a-

  15. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah

  16. Pastor Andy Mueller

    ... there's a book series, uh, written by Jack Carr, who's a former Navy SEAL, and the hero of this book series-

  17. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Of course

  18. Pastor Andy Mueller

    ... is a man named James Reece. It's a great series.

  19. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yep.

  20. Pastor Andy Mueller

    But, um, he... A, he drinks his coffee with milk and honey.

  21. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Oh, hon- it is... Yeah, it's the honey. Exactly. Yeah.

  22. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Yeah.

  23. Pastor Michael Zarling

    He doesn't like black coffee. And he is... He's a man's man. You're exactly right, Jack Reece.

  24. Pastor Andy Mueller

    100%.

  25. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah.

  26. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Yep.

  27. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah. But I also have... 'Cause every morning now I have a smoothie, and so, uh, my new concoction is banana, pineapple, peanut butter, and then milk.

  28. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Do you get mani pedis too?

  29. Pastor Michael Zarling

    No. No. I try to... I, I, I try to stay away from... Uh, I, I like bread. I could eat bread every day. Trying to get away from all the bread, and then especially everything that grew up eating with cereal. So trying to do something healthy, so a smoothie every, every morning's kind of a good thing.

  30. Josh Nelson

    On a quick side note, by the way, this is expensive-

  31. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah

  32. Josh Nelson

    ... but, um, really, really good. I've actually been able to cut down to just, like, two meals a day. I skip lunch. Um, I'll have two eggs with, um, like, salt, pepper, and rosemary, and then a, a salmon filet.

  33. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Wow.

  34. Josh Nelson

    And... Now, if... You gotta get the wild caught stuff, because the farm raised stuff, uh, is, is not good because you have fish in a pen consuming their own waste. Um, but the wild caught stuff, it's like 30 bucks a bag at Costco, so it's not cheap. But, like, I'm, I'm honestly not at all hungry during the day, and so there's no snacking. Um, and there's also... There's no carbs in that situation there. And so... And then I'll eat, like, a normal dinner. And so-

  35. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah

  36. Josh Nelson

    ... um, yeah. Check it out.

  37. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah. Well, very good. And if you really want to be manly about that, you should do it raw eggs.

  38. Josh Nelson

    Raw e- eggs. My inner, my inner Stallone is not gonna-

  39. Pastor Michael Zarling

    Yeah, exactly. Rocky would do that

  40. Josh Nelson

    ... cut it.

  41. Pastor Andy Mueller

    Let's go Rocky.

  42. Josh Nelson

    No.

  43. Pastor Andy Mueller

    I was gonna say, come on Rocky.

  44. Josh Nelson

    Yep.

The Pronoun Hospitality Problem
Pastor Michael Zarling, Josh Nelson
Biblical View of Gender and Pronouns
Pastor Michael Zarling, Josh Nelson, Pastor Andy Mueller
Origins of Gender Ideology
Pastor Andy Mueller, Josh Nelson, Pastor Michael Zarling
Speaking Truth in Love
Pastor Michael Zarling, Josh Nelson, Pastor Andy Mueller
First and Eighth Commandments
Josh Nelson, Pastor Michael Zarling
Difficulty and Rejection
Pastor Michael Zarling, Pastor Andy Mueller, Josh Nelson
Attending Gay Weddings
Pastor Michael Zarling, Pastor Andy Mueller, Josh Nelson

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